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cbertsch ([personal profile] cbertsch) wrote2004-07-25 03:32 pm

Straight Outta Caramel Macchiatos

I remember reading a story describing the "first urban Starbucks" back in the late 1990s with bemusement. As far as I could tell, there were already hundreds of urban locations. But this new store was in Harlem and therefore "urban" in a different sense.

I don't think that location was a collaborative venture between Starbucks and Magic Johnson's Johnson Development Corporation, but most subsequent "urban" stores have been. And now that partnership has come to the home of N.W.A.:
Mayor Eric Perrodin said the Starbucks ``was like a stamp of approval for the city of Compton'' and is symbolic of a new and prosperous time.
Fans of the green medallion from the days of its Pacific Northwest exclusivity or even when the sole location in the San Francisco Bay Area was at 51st and Broadway -- me, that is -- may tighten their sneers -- quantity almost always goes downhill with quantity -- but I think Alexis De Tocqueville would have regarded the mayor's statement as an accurate expression of American reality, even while not so secretly lamenting the demise of specialosity.

While I realize it may be stretching truth to the point of transparency to term Starbucks a "civic organization" in the sense of Democracy in American, there is something interesting about the way in which mainstream café culture reorganizes private "public" space. All those people sitting at their Wi-Fi laptops half-working in their office away from the office or, increasingly, their only office are engaged with other citizens in a way that people who don't work in public are not.

[identity profile] cpratt.livejournal.com 2004-07-25 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
quantity almost always goes downhill with quantity

Come again?

Seriously, do you think the quality's gone down at all? I head for Starbucks at least twice a year, and it always seems pretty much the same; at least, the lattes are the same [it might interest you to know that Starbucks uses just about the highest milk to coffee ratio of any coffee shop, at least according to a Guardian article from this Spring].

[identity profile] kdotdammit.livejournal.com 2004-07-25 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, the quality I guess can go down hill in so much as overpriced mediocre swill can be either more or less mediocre though consistently overpriced.

[identity profile] cbertsch.livejournal.com 2004-07-26 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
Some of my former students worked at Starbucks. I got the lowdown on some compromises made by the company over the past year or two that troubled seasoned baristas. Apparently, the training issue has caught up with Starbucks. It's not the product - which was never the best, as Kim rightly points out -- that has changed but the ability to staff stores with people who can master the technique of making decent espresso drinks. To compensate, they've switched over to simpler machines that take the subjectivity out of pulling espresso and foaming milk, but at the expense of taste. Or so my former students tell me.

[identity profile] sittinginaroom.livejournal.com 2004-07-26 04:46 am (UTC)(link)
Your former students' departure from Starbucks has also resulted in a decline in my gratis Starbucks consumption. And regardless of its middling quality, free coffee be free coffee. I've also found, at least around Tucson and Phoenix, that the quality of any particular coffee shop's product varies inversely with its clientele's cleanliness. Take Epic Cafe -- gross, dumb hippies outside, delicious pastries, decent coffee and free WiFi inside. I remember sitting outside Epic one day when a local hippie who I knew for a fact worked at Brooklyn Pizza, and who had many friends in common with myself, looked at me with a pathetic, forlorn expression and told me she forgot her name and identity. She served me a slice two days later.

[identity profile] cbertsch.livejournal.com 2004-07-26 06:29 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't been to Epic Café in a long time. But I should check it out, once my laptop is working right again. It's funny, but there's actually better free Wi-Fi here than I found in the Bay Area. Or, rather, it's in places you want to hang out.

I'm not sure about your formula, though. I think Raging Sage is pretty great -- the beans certainly are, even if some baristas get the milk too hot, especially in the morning -- and also very clean.

But it's not really a place to spend more than an hour, I feel. Kim and I once spent hours at an awesome, sofa-filled café in Calgary back in June, 1993. That one was awesome.

Our favorite, though, is Pannikin in Encinitas, where we spent the better part -- along with Disneyland, naturally -- of our last two So-Cal trips.