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cbertsch ([personal profile] cbertsch) wrote2005-06-16 09:03 am
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Who Writes This Material?

This copy comes from part of the spam I just received:
Out of debt, out of danger. Veranda with her gracious body starts off the scene nice and slow. Thoughts are but dreams till their effects are tried. Her swollen, dripping hole ached for that meat deep inside her for 30 minutes of cruel video! Experience does not err. Only your judgments err by expecting from her what is not in her power. One weeps not save when one is afraid, and that is why kings are tyrants.
Now I know that the reason for this strange syntax and stranger juxtapositions must lie in an attempt to evade spam filters. Yet, just as I find beauty in those "postmodern" found poems that consist of a list of words with no intrinsic connection, I'm intrigued by several details here: the words "gracious," "cruel," and "err," not to mention the architecturally resonant name "Veranda;" the lone exclamation point; the antiquated sound of, "One weeps not save when one is afraid;" the disjunction between the final sentence and the one preceding it. I think someone should start a library documenting the aesthetic dimension to spam. Indirection is, after all, the foundation of artistic expression.

[identity profile] slanderous.livejournal.com 2005-06-16 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
It seems like something like might come out of a generator, like, you know, the Postmodern Paper Title Generator. (You've seen that one, right?)

It also reads a little bit like some Victorian-era porn.

[identity profile] cbertsch.livejournal.com 2005-06-16 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe Victorian porn is a kind of Postmodern Paper Title Generator!

[identity profile] slanderous.livejournal.com 2005-06-16 05:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't give me ideas -- I hate thinking up paper titles!

[identity profile] cbertsch.livejournal.com 2005-06-16 06:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Me too. Is a colon a copula?

Mel

[identity profile] ozric-dampierre.livejournal.com 2005-06-16 05:07 pm (UTC)(link)
resonant name veranda suggested veranda porche fusion mag (one of the big 3 of the era with creem and phonograph record) mel lyman who seems to have not been forgotten here http://www.trussel.com/f_mel.htm particularly fascinating is the appearance on the page of guin turner who i now know from her lead role in brit fetish film preaching to the perverted.................

Re: Mel

[identity profile] cbertsch.livejournal.com 2005-06-16 06:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow! That sight is an amazing labor of love and a testament to the power of the internet to keep the memory of the otherwise forgotten alive for those who care to look. I don't know about "Veranda Porche," though, and a Google look-around turned up nothing. Details?

Re: Mel

[identity profile] ozric-dampierre.livejournal.com 2005-06-16 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
in this case verandah has an h~ a name connected to raymond mungo pretty sure verandah porche appears in his book total loss farm http://www.raymondmungo.com/aboutray.htm don't know if crawdaddy founder paul williams still lives in encinitas where he was with cindy lee berryhill.

Re: Mel

[identity profile] cbertsch.livejournal.com 2005-06-16 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Not that Paul Williams, I trust. My history is weak in that area. I can't believe I wrote "sight" for "site." But it was a sight to behold, certainly. So much detail. So many images. Thanks for hipping me to something new to my world.

Re: Mel

[identity profile] ozric-dampierre.livejournal.com 2005-06-16 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
not this paul williams http://paulwilliamsconnection.org/paul.htm will add i copied the latin quote from this book where it appears as an epigraph with a translation i left out--joy press does the voice review job http://www.villagevoice.com/books/0522,bpress1,64485,10.html

Re: Mel

[identity profile] cbertsch.livejournal.com 2005-06-16 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
But wouldn't it be great if the two Paul Williams retroactively turned into one?

[identity profile] counter-memory.livejournal.com 2005-06-16 05:15 pm (UTC)(link)
what interests me is the nexus of security, commerce, and evasion in these textual artifacts. text generated to subvert one commodity (anti-spam security) to market another. textual play and hacking harnessed to shill prescription drug scams.

[identity profile] cbertsch.livejournal.com 2005-06-16 06:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. That's a wonderful way of putting it. I was thinking of you because I enjoy your experiments so much. It's fascinating what the need for indirection and evasion will do.

[identity profile] amnesiascope.livejournal.com 2005-06-17 01:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks! I'm trying to come at this from an Altieri / Adorno angle: problems with a politics (and poetics) of the signifier, instrumental reason, yadda yadda yadda.

[identity profile] art-thirst.livejournal.com 2005-06-16 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Brilliantly stated... I think I might actually go and look at those things now. I normally just delete them all without a glance. :-)

[identity profile] cbertsch.livejournal.com 2005-06-16 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I totally agree. Most of them have little to offer. But some are amazingly strange.

[identity profile] amnesiascope.livejournal.com 2005-06-17 01:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks! This whole subject might make a fascinating article. Maybe an anthology of found spam prose poems?

[identity profile] thewhitaker.livejournal.com 2005-06-16 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure it's spam. I think Thomas Pynchon is sending you excerpts from a novel-in-progress.

[identity profile] cbertsch.livejournal.com 2005-06-16 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought that's what you were doing with your stories. I'm so confused.